I Think The Reason He Could Do It Is Cause He's Part Coyote And Jeff Davis Has Stated That For Werecoyotes

It’s not even over cause then he ends up being forced to work for the McCall pack then he’s homeless and then he gets kidnapped and toured again then arrested again and then forced to help fight a war and still after all that he’s still homeless at least he might get a boyfriend after everything

the fact that theo hasn't had the chance to just EXIST in like a decade really gets me. he was abducted, abused, and controlled for years and now that he can actually live – not serve a purpose, just live – it must be pretty fucking daunting. he spent over half his life being puppeted by mad scientists who only saw him as a means to an end, so like. now what? where do you even start?

I was going through the thiam tag to find a fic and I found one just called “I hate Scott McCall” and the tags and things they wrote were just hating on Scott I decided to skim through it and they don’t have any actual reason to hate Scott they just make shit up to give them a reason to or they say they don’t agree with his morals which I was always like what morals not wanting to kill people like they sound so dumb like Scott’s a teenager who’s had to put his life on the line multiple times of course he’s gonna make a few mistakes and he’s not the only one yet they focus on him only

the popularity of the "bad friend scott mccall" tag even before season 5 is insane to me because uhhhh did we all forget motel california or smth?

He apologized get over it 🙄

Teen wolf is definitely one of my top favorite shows but it’s definitely not a good show like I love it but it’s a mess and I actually prefer the fanfics people make of the show rather then the actual show itself

if there’s one aspect i could criticize about the writing of teen wolf it’s the in depth backstories of each character only to never talk about it again or develop it any further.

liam’s ied and past school? only used as a prop to further the plot and create conflict (angry man go punch!)

isaac’s abuse and claustrophobia? only mentioned/showed how it effects him one time outside flashbacks (motel california)

theo’s growing up and manipulation with the dread doctors? never mentioned, only lightly brushed over in incoherent flashbacks (yes it shows him being guilty for taking tara’s heart, but not the dread doctors effect on him and torture for him to get where he was)

stiles’ nogitsune trauma? only brought up as a joke after the fact (“i once had a demon living in my head LOL”

derek hale’s past with grooming by kate? only used to show they know each other, not why what she did was wrong or harmful (doesn’t show the harmful nature of grooming and how derek’s trust would be forever altered because of kate’s abuse of his)

malia living like a coyote for the first ?17? years of her life because she “killed” her own family? “omg you can’t take her anywhere! she likes to eat deer🤣🤣”

allison’s mom killing herself cause she’d rather be anything but a werewolf? mentioned maybe a couple times afterwords

it seems as though they attempt to make the characters deep and thought-out but toss aside the trauma they have given them in order to further the new villian of the week and constant conflict. sometimes i wish that the characters made decisions in conjunction with their prior trauma or showed symptoms of how these events effected them because it’s no secret that they would. i understand that it’s a lot to ask for a super precise and detailed description of how every character is feeling, but with 24 episodes a season, tossing in a couple reflective scenes couldn’t have hurt. i fear that their constant need to one-up their villains took away from the personality and characterization of the show as it kept running.

(this is why i love this fandom so much, because yall do! thank you to the writers who write realistic ptsd or lingering effects of major events)

ok i’m done now thank you @thiamsxbitch for inspiring this rant

I think it's a combination of things

1. The first being Hayden's death Theo put the idea in Liam's head that if Scott were to bite Hayden she would live but Scott refused to do so, so then Theo put the idea that if Liam could become an alpha he could save Hayden

2.the fact that Liam was a werewolf with ied on a super moon while his girlfriend was dying, werewolves already have anger issues and can get violent when angry, so Liam having ied just makes his anger even worse than the average werewolf would also we've seen how werewolves especially more newer ones act on the full moon liam in season 5 was still having issues with control but it wasnt just a full moon it was a super moon which is even worse then add on to the fact that his girlfriend is dying then yeah liam has a lot going on in his head, then you have theo who sees all this happening in liams head and puts the idea in liam to kill scott giving liam a way to not only save his girlfriend but a place to direct his anger at

It's kinda what masons says the next episode that while Liam is partially at fault their were to many circumstances.

(also sidenote I don't know if this is kinda messed up to say but I kinda get why Liam was so angry at Scott, Scott had a possible way of saving Hayden Scott said he couldn't cause she could die from it but she was already dying , like she was gonna die either way but at least by biting her she has a chance. I'm not saying that to justify Liam's actions obviously not nor am I saying this to hate on Scott I actually really like Scott and I do kinda get why Scott didn't bite her I just think he should have taken the risk)

how did Theo get into Liam's head? How did he manipulate him to almost kill Scott? were those short conversations we see on the show really all it took?

agreed except I also view Nolan as ace I read one fanfic with it and now i headcanon it

how I perceive the puppy packs sexuality’s

if you agree or disagree, I’d love to hear your own thoughts or your own headcanons!

yes I like to consider Gwen in the puppy pack, i hc that her and Hayden got together. I also wanted to include Brett & Lori so bad because I like to pretend they didn’t dieeee

This may be a unpopular opinion but I believe everything he did including season 5 was done because he wanted to stay alive not saying it excuses everything he (tho I can definitely make a point for some stuff) but I genuinely believe all his actions came from a sense of survival

if theo truly is rotten, he’d have killed everyone the moment he came back from hell instead of trying his hardest to stay alive. this is a hill i’d die on

Okay I’m kinda curious on what people think each of the puppy pack would do for jobs in the future

So these characters

Liam Dunbar(Honestly I kinda view as a history teacher)

Mason Hewitt(I refuse to believe he became a cop)

Corey Bryant(I can kinda see him in something maybe medical or a photographer)

So for the rest I have no idea

Theo raeken

Nolan Holloway

Alec

Hayden Romero

Brett

Lori

Pin for survivors

I have to respond to this cause I’ve been thinking about this so much

I’ve always excused a lot of theo’s actions and defended him and I’ve always wondered is that actually because of a moral belief I have or am I just biased and really like his character but as I’ve thought about it more I realized I’ve only done this with certain villains and I’ve managed to put villains into 3 categories.

1) are those who I believe are pure evil no matter what happened to them they’ve gone past a point where I can’t see any redeeming qualities and then 2) are villains who have done horribly evil things that I can’t defend but who I still believe are capable and have the chance at redemption and then theirs 3) villains like Theo who I just can’t view as him as evil I can awknoldge that what he did was wrong but I get it he was an abused kid who was stuck in a horrible situation being manipulated while his life was constantly in danger and I can’t judge him cause of that anybody in his situation would do exactly what he did and those that say they wouldn’t probably are lying to themselves we could say oh I wouldn’t be manipulated or even if I was forced to hurt someone else I would rather die but most of us would do it he was 9 and spent his whole life with them the fact that he was able to change and become better proves he wasn’t all that bad plus they forgave argent for trying to kill them and killing how many other supernaturals simply because of his childhood why should Theo be any different

#4 emails part 3

I just wanted to share some emails sent back and forth about my fic Sense of a Foreshortened Future because I need inspiration to start writing it again. In these emails it's referred to as #4 because it was the fourth Thiam fic I ever started writing. I will do my best to remove what I think is spoilers.

Hi hello,

Okay so I have this one question which is: do you think Liam forgave Theo for what he did?

I'd like your initial opinion before you read my brain thoughts on why I'm conflicted about this question.

Brain thoughts (there's a lot unfortunately and they are going to be kinda all over the place):

I have this very basic concept of why I like enemies to lovers, it's not that they love each other because or despite their past actions or who they used to be, they just love each other.

Liam- at least the way I'm writing him- thinks of Theo before Kira's prison and Theo after as basically two different people. Can you forgive someone if your brain isn't connecting that they were the same person who did the hurtful/bad action?

At what point in an abused child's life do they become responsible for the actions they might have been manipulated into doing? At what point do you draw the line in the sand? Is it when they turn a certain age, or are removed from the abuse, or when they have people telling them what they're doing is wrong? Is it fair to judge someone based on a decision(s) they made while being threatened with death? 

Where does manipulation end and personal choice begin? 

Could you ever forgive someone for hurting you and the people you care about like that? I want to say that I'd be able to, but if I came face to face with that I don't know if I would be able to do it. I'd want to be able to forgive. Do you need to forgive someone to love them in a healthy way if you've both grown?

Is forgiveness something that happens all at once or do you need to wake up every day and forgive again?

What even is forgiveness? It could be reconciliation with the person who hurt you. Maybe it's when the negative emotions you used to feel about someone are replaced by positive or neutral ones. It could be when you stop feeling resentment or the need for revenge. Is it forgetting or ignoring or fully acknowledging? 

Maybe it's all of those things.

Do you think Liam forgave Theo for what he did? Does he have to?

From inside a library contemplating the meaning of life, seven

God okay so this is a lot. bravo. You've clearly thought about this a lot so I say to go with whatever you think because I have no idea how to answer this I'm going to be honest.

But no he doesn't have to forgive him, I'm just not sure if he has.

I think maybe Liam has forgiven him in the way that he doesn't feel contempt or want revenge. I think I need Liam in the story to realize that the person he keeps referring to as Evil Theo is the same Theo that he is almost friends with is the same person. I think a lot of the anger he has for Evil Theo is aimed more at the idea that the pack was hurt. I think (later on) Liam will remember what it felt like when he was being manipulated into trying to kill Scott, and how that situation didn't define him as a person because he did the work to be better after that and Liam will kinda apply that to Theo.