Elsie | Marvel comics sideblog revolving around Franklin Richards x Luna Maximoff and therefore their respective families | Magnet Fam & Fantastic Four | Fanfic will be written. This is a threat (to myself). | My mainblog is @residentmiddlechild | My writing sideblog is @imaginary-things-nothing-else
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interesting that this little plot point has popped back up...
I am a big subscriber to the “Charles and Erik took that knowledge from Reed and used it for themselves to mask Franklin’s X-Gene and manipulate him into thinking he’s not actually a mutant because he was a threat to them” theory, so this is very interesting indeed...
I hope we see this brought up again soon. And of course I hope that Franklin is still a mutant because it’s really stupid that he’s not and takes away from his character :)
forgot to mention that I’m annoyed by Franklin’s hair now being permanently black... I think it’s just stupid. “It’s just how I feel, mom, I’m an emo now and forever.” But more than that it took away a core part of his character design and I don’t like it personally. It think it would have been fun to see him stop dying it at some point as a character development thing, but again nooo
So I just read Fantastic Four (2018) #45. And wow. I was already ready to be disappointed, but it just sucks so bad.
First, the whole Reckoning War storyline was terrible (which I was expecting it to be since it’s Dan Slott). Especially for what it did to Reed. Reed was just allowing himself to act like a terrible human being since he thought he was going to die. He did and said terrible things. And now that’s all just going to be swept under the rug and ignored? Like is Reed going to face no consequences for his actions? But more than that I’m so tried of Reed being written like a terrible human being. Yes, Reed has a hard time with empathy and emotions sometimes, but that doesn’t mean he’s a literal sociopath. There are ways to write Reed that have him still come off as a likeable character. See Jonathan Hickman’s FF run. (My favourite run.) I feel like Reed hasn’t been himself for years and it just makes me so sad.
Second, the whole thing with Johnny’s increased powers is so annoying and I’m tired of it. I mean, Johnny has not been written well for a while and this has just turned him into a whiny hothead. (Which he sometimes is, but that’s ignoring all the character growth he’s had over the years.) And now he’s gone off to live with Sky… *long sigh* I never really liked her as a girlfriend to Johnny. She’s a fine character on her own, but I really hope they don’t get back together…
Third, the thing that is making me the most annoyed. Franklin. I had hopes for Franklin. I did. But now it looks like his powers have returned. And there was basically no point to taking them away because he has learned no lesson from losing them. I have said in previous posts that I hoped that Franklin would learn that even without his powers he can live his life and be a hero, but if he has really gotten them back, there has been no development. Franklin has continually been in the same grumpy mindset of “I used to be a god” and nothing has changed. I wanted them to commit to his powers being gone and have him learn other ways to help the FF. But no. Because we can’t have nice things. And now Franklin is still a bratty kid with a God complex that he never used to have. And he’s still not a mutant again (which is a whole other post).
In conclusion, I am tried. T I R E D
So I just read Fantastic Four (2018) #45. And wow. I was already ready to be disappointed, but it just sucks so bad.
First, the whole Reckoning War storyline was terrible (which I was expecting it to be since it’s Dan Slott). Especially for what it did to Reed. Reed was just allowing himself to act like a terrible human being since he thought he was going to die. He did and said terrible things. And now that’s all just going to be swept under the rug and ignored? Like is Reed going to face no consequences for his actions? But more than that I’m so tried of Reed being written like a terrible human being. Yes, Reed has a hard time with empathy and emotions sometimes, but that doesn’t mean he’s a literal sociopath. There are ways to write Reed that have him still come off as a likeable character. See Jonathan Hickman’s FF run. (My favourite run.) I feel like Reed hasn’t been himself for years and it just makes me so sad.
Second, the whole thing with Johnny’s increased powers is so annoying and I’m tired of it. I mean, Johnny has not been written well for a while and this has just turned him into a whiny hothead. (Which he sometimes is, but that’s ignoring all the character growth he’s had over the years.) And now he’s gone off to live with Sky... *long sigh* I never really liked her as a girlfriend to Johnny. She’s a fine character on her own, but I really hope they don’t get back together...
Third, the thing that is making me the most annoyed. Franklin. I had hopes for Franklin. I did. But now it looks like his powers have returned. And there was basically no point to taking them away because he has learned no lesson from losing them. I have said in previous posts that I hoped that Franklin would learn that even without his powers he can live his life and be a hero, but if he has really gotten them back, there has been no development. Franklin has continually been in the same grumpy mindset of “I used to be a god” and nothing has changed. I wanted them to commit to his powers being gone and have him learn other ways to help the FF. But no. Because we can’t have nice things. And now Franklin is still a bratty kid with a God complex that he never used to have. And he’s still not a mutant again (which is a whole other post).
In conclusion, I am tried. T I R E D
Marvel is just going to take Franklin Richards’ X-gene away and then have FIRESTAR join the X-Men?? Why??
I have good news. He’s leaving the Fantastic Four soon. So that’s something.
Can someone tell me what Dan Slott knows to continued to be employed by Marvel? I mean, they even put a hit piece out on him back in 2020 and yet he's still there.
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Well I hope that his hair being black is all he changed (even though I highly doubt it). I was hoping for some kind of, you know, good character arc for Franklin before he got them back. Where he realizes that he doesn’t need his powers to live his life and be a hero. but I guess not :/ ugh
Does anyone know if Franklin got his powers back in Fantastic Four #45? Like for good? I’m confused…
Does anyone know if Franklin got his powers back in Fantastic Four #45? Like for good? I’m confused...
Luna: Ok, maybe playing ‘whose family is most dysfunctional’ wasn’t the best idea we’ve had. Ahura's been crying in the bathroom for an hour. We can’t get him out…
Luna's YA nickname would definitely be either Lulu or Nana depending on the person. For the girls, she's Lulu. David and Billy call her Luna. Tommy and Teddie call her Nana. Nate calls her Blondie.
Okay, these are wonderful, but I feel like someone has to call her "Loony"...but I'm not sure who... Maybe Tommy?
I have this headcanon that Luna likes to paint, specifically watercolour painting. I think it was in Son of M, but Luna describes her powers as seeing different colours around people, and I think it would be cool if she began to express the emotions that she sees around people in art. I think watercolour painting is the most accurate to how she sees these coloured auras around people.
Luna starts studying marine biology and her friends frequently send her There are many benefits to being a marine biologist memes
*wheezes* okay the only other thought I'd have for a job for Luna would be a therapist because of her powers, but honestly, this is so funny, i'm crying-
oh thank God.
While I love what has been done with Ben and Alicia with their marriage and the introduction of Nikki and Jo, for the rest of the characters I have been pretty disappointed. I’m glad that Franklin and Valeria have been aged up, but they need to be used better and they need to make Franklin a mutant again. I hope we get a better writer with a better vision next!
Thinking about YA girls friendship. For spring break, the girls take Luna on a tropical island getaway (and to take a break from the city). They take her shopping, surfing, zip lining, and more so she gets to experience having fun. They even come across Rachel Summers-Grey who is also on spring break.
Ahh yes! Also, Luna canonically loves the ocean after growing up on the Moon and she would enjoy that so much.
Honestly, though, my ultimate crossover would be all the legacy characters/children of older heroes coming together. A lot of them have so much in common and it would just be fun to see!
Sorry to blow up your inbox so much but Young Avenger!Luna gives me so many ideas. I wanna think about a dynamic between her and Teddy. Both of them are basically alien royalty so that could lead to a possible Kree-Skrull and Inhuman alliance.
Hey don’t worry about it! I love talking about this stuff! It’s been so fun!
That is a very interesting idea though, I hadn’t thought about that somehow! I think they would get along very well! i actually think that Luna would make a great Human-Inhuman relations ambassador when she grows up, so maybe Teddy gets her into the political side of things!
Ahh! Thank you so much!!! :D (I will be sure to give you credit for the name though!) And you’re welcome! I’m glad I could introduce you to her! She’s definitely one of my favourite minor characters too! I’m hoping to make more posts for this blog soon. I had previously been so busy with school, but now I have a lot more free time in the afternoons.
Luna's hero name should definitely be Aura. Not too meaningful or anything, but it's pretty and it fits her.
*blinking in awe* you've done it.
I have been trying to figure out a good hero name for her for FOREVER! How on earth did I not think of Aura?? That's literally her power! But yes, it fits her perfectly!
(May I use it? 🥺 👉👈 Like in fanfics that I'm going to write?)
Luna's hero name should definitely be Aura. Not too meaningful or anything, but it's pretty and it fits her.
*blinking in awe* you've done it.
I have been trying to figure out a good hero name for her for FOREVER! How on earth did I not think of Aura?? That's literally her power! But yes, it fits her perfectly!
(May I use it? 🥺 👉👈 Like in fanfics that I'm going to write?)
I’ve opened up my ask box for anyone who wants to talk!!
So I’m basically just writing this for me and just because maybe I can get other people into the ship… And quick disclaimer, some of these points are based off things that I am inferring from the characters because they really have not been delved into enough.
This is basically a list of reasons why Franklin and Luna would work together well and some other points about the nature of the ship itself.
Beware that this will probably be a little scattered.
Childhood friends to lovers. That’s the ship dynamic. I am honestly amazed that nobody has thought to ship this before (from what I can tell) because Luna and Franklin for years have been the two main superhero children. Their families have always been shown to be close and likely they played together as children, not to mention that they were both part of the Future Foundation at one point.
Background. Both Franklin and Luna grew up in tumultuous situations. They both know what it’s like to be the children of superheroes and to be held back because their parents wanted to protect them. (Though Franklin has not been cooped up his entire life, he’s been allowed to explore, where Luna has not.) Both of them have similar experiences, having been kidnapped multiple times by supervillains fighting their parents (which I headcanon they both have PTSD from).
Family. Both Luna and Franklin are specifically tied to their families. The Fantastic Four is Marvel’s First Family and is portrayed as a close, loving family. Luna is the only daughter of Crystal, the Inhuman princess, whose family suffers from constant infighting, and also is the daughter of Quicksilver, making her the granddaughter of Magneto (the retcon can choke). Luna’s family is anything but stable. Franklin and Luna’s family lives are opposites. Luna has practically no support from her family while Franklin suffers from too much support (in his humble teenage opinion lol). In this way they contrast and compliment each other. It’s also likely that both of them have instilled in them a strong sense family values and a want for a stable, peaceful family, which is something they have in common
Personality. Franklin (at least in the current FF run) is very cynical. Growing up the son of superheroes seems to have finally gotten to him. He’s jaded and definitely “going through a phase”. But underneath that is the boy he used to be. Someone with creativity, hope and bravery. Luna is someone who, even though she has gone through so much, has kept her kindness. She is emotionally intelligent (due to her empathy powers) and can look past someone’s outer exterior to their hearts. Underneath everything, both of them are tired kids, who somehow have managed to keep their hearts despite everything. Luna seems to have an easier time of this. But of course she hasn’t lived on earth her whole life and is still enamored by the idea of the ocean. She might be able to help Franklin see the beauty in the ordinary as to her it’s very extraordinary. But at the same time, Franklin might help to ground her more optimistic outlook on the world and together they could come to a happy balance.
And both of them are lonely. Now this is where we get into “inferring territory” because it has never been explicitly said of either of them. But in the current FF run we have seen Franklin completely isolated. He no longer has his best friend Leech with him or any of the Future Foundation members. He’s been banned from Krakoa because he’s not really a mutant (*curses Dan Slott*). The only people he has around him is his family. And from personal experience I can say that even the most kind and supportive family cannot always fill that lonely ache that comes late at night. And as for Luna…oh poor Luna. She has only ever had one friend, Adolf Impossible, who was never seen again and she went to Braddock Academy for a few weeks but did not go back. She lives on Attilan with her family, none of which are her age. Her only friend really seems to be Lockjaw…and he’s a dog… (Of course I headcanon that she’s quite close with her cousin Ahura, but that’s never been shown.) But Luna is lonely. And so is Franklin. And I figure that upon meeting each other as teenagers again, they would find some solace in one another as friends. (and in the fanfics I’m writing they are friends for a long time before getting romantic).
Note. One other thing I want to note is that Luna should not be some manic pixie dream girl to make all of Franklin’s fantasies come true and make his life better without contributing to hers. If anything, he’s the one fulfilling her dreams of being part of a big happy family (as opposed to her big dysfunctional family). Both Luna and Franklin have trauma and issues. They are not there to fix each other. They’re both going on journeys, on parallel paths that eventually converge.
Extra Reasons.
they both have glowy eyes so that’s frickin’ awesome
Luna just came out of comics limbo and looks to be about the same age as Franklin now based on her appearance
If they get married I get to tie together my two favourite Marvel families (Fantastic Four and Magneto’s Family)
They’re both rich kids.
They pass my vibe check and that’s what’s important
They both have been through so much and they deserve some happiness
I love them both and why shouldn’t I ship it?
And that’s it. <3 Feel free to message me if this brings you onto the ship. I am shipping them all by myself over here and enjoying it immensely.
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To continue on with FrankLuna, I imagine that Luna becomes a member of the Young Avengers and immediately befriends Kate, America, and Cassie but that's beside the point. The Future Foundation and YA team up for a mission and Frank just begins subtly flirting with Luna. Not too much, but at the right times.
Cue protective cousins Tommy and Billy
Oh, I applaud you. This is wonderful. I love this so much. This is very, very good.
I feel like on the Young Avengers Luna would be like "everyone's little sister" type. (Except with Billy and Tommy because she insists she's really older because she was born first technically.) Cassie, America and Kate would just take her under their wings and be the best older sisters ever. It would be wonderful.
And of course Billy and Tommy would be protective cousins. This is wonderful. I want to write a little fanfic, but I have so much I want to write it's a problem. If only I could write faster lol
Completely agreed. All I want is Magnet family interactions. But Marvel seems to have forgotten about Luna completely. I mean, she wasn’t even in The Trial of Magneto (but I ignore that comic anyways lol)
I wish we got more of an exploration of Luna's powers and just her in general. For me personally, I'd make her an Inhuman/Mutant hybrid and put her with the Young Avengers. She could have such an interesting dynamic with her cousins Billy and Tommy plus I want to see her and Magneto interact
Ugh yeah. I talk about this in a meta on my sideblog, if you haven't seen it. (https://just-a-local-lunatic.tumblr.com/post/673398401110556672/the-potential-of-luna-maximoff) I just want to know what her character is like and how her powers affect that. She is such an interesting character.
But what I would give to have Luna interact with any member of Pietro's side of the family. She has literally never met Billy and Tommy and I'm mad about it. And yeah, Grandpa Magneto and Luna would be such a fun dynamic. I also want to see her with Lorna and Wanda. It would be really fun to have like a little comic one shot with Lorna and Wanda rescuing Luna or something with just the girls. I would be happy with almost anything at this point.
(also with Billy and Tommy technically Luna was born before them but when they were reincarnated they are now older and I think it would be a funny running joke for Luna to be like "as the older cousin here-")
I wish we got more of an exploration of Luna's powers and just her in general. For me personally, I'd make her an Inhuman/Mutant hybrid and put her with the Young Avengers. She could have such an interesting dynamic with her cousins Billy and Tommy plus I want to see her and Magneto interact
Ugh yeah. I talk about this in a meta on my sideblog, if you haven't seen it. (https://just-a-local-lunatic.tumblr.com/post/673398401110556672/the-potential-of-luna-maximoff) I just want to know what her character is like and how her powers affect that. She is such an interesting character.
But what I would give to have Luna interact with any member of Pietro's side of the family. She has literally never met Billy and Tommy and I'm mad about it. And yeah, Grandpa Magneto and Luna would be such a fun dynamic. I also want to see her with Lorna and Wanda. It would be really fun to have like a little comic one shot with Lorna and Wanda rescuing Luna or something with just the girls. I would be happy with almost anything at this point.
(also with Billy and Tommy technically Luna was born before them but when they were reincarnated they are now older and I think it would be a funny running joke for Luna to be like "as the older cousin here-")
Here’s an ask about FrankLuna from my mainblog <3
So about Frank x Luna... I am very much listening
(for anyone confused, this is referring to my sideblog @just-a-local-lunatic)
You have enabled me. I'm probably going to go on a long gush about them now lol
Yeah, so THEM, my babies, my beautiful children- *clears throat* Yeah, I can be normal about them. But yeah, this ship actually made me appriciate the friends to lovers trope a lot more than I did before.
I just think they have a lot of potential to them both. They haven't been explored as their own characters nearly enough and I think they'd be really good friends. I mean, I assume you've seen my FrankLuna post at this point. There are so many reasons that they work. I'm sure I have projected onto them both a lot, but they're mainly empty slates and I'm just trying to embellish the small character bits I already see in them.
I have curated a whole fanfic storyline for them up until they get married basically because I'm a sucker for a good happily ever after. Just because I can, I am going to give a little outline of what the story will be. Hopefully one day I will actually get around to writing it. I have a lot planned.
So it starts when Franklin and Luna are like 14/15 and they reunite after the Fantastic Four returns from space. (This was in the one fanfic I have published on my blog "Kidnapped...Again".) They become best friends and they hang out a lot. Luna managed to convince Crystal to let her go back to Braddock Academy and now she gets to see her dad a lot more and she hangs out with Franklin, Valeria, and Ben and Alicia's kids a lot (Nikki and Jo). And Franklin is still going to that one school that was in FF #20.
It's definitely going to be best friends to lovers, like there is not going to be any inkling of romance until they're older. Franklin does have one girlfriend though, a girl from his school Sara Jessen (who is mentioned in FF #20 as well). She's just a normal girl and though they have a good relationship they ultimately break up because Sara can't handle the stress of the superhero life. But Sara and Franklin stay friends. Also Luna, who got to know Sara as well, are also friends because I do not like women pitted against women.
Here's where stuff really starts to happen. At about 17/18, Franklin starts to feel like he wants to leave home. But he feels like he can't talk to anyone about it because he knows if he says anything his family will convince him to stay and he knows he won't be able to say no. He does tell Val this though, and eventually Franklin formulates a plan to leave home. He just wants some freedom and some time to figure out who he is without his family and without his powers, and he feels he can't do that at home.
So Franklin, with Val's help, leaves home. He does go talk with Spider-Man first though and gives him a phone that will let him reach him in case anything happens. Peter tries to convince him to stay, but realizes that Franklin already has his mind made up and lets him go with the condition that Franklin will call him when he gets wherever he's going.
(Of course Franklin's departure has huge repercussions at home, mainly in Reed who realizes he maybe hasn't been the best dad to Franklin in the last while, but that's not important right now. That will be for another post or ask. >:))
So this action kinda branches off into what I am thinking of as two comic miniseries' that crossover pretty often. First we have The Adventures of Franklin Richards, and overlapping with that is The Adventures of Luna Maximoff/Braddock Academy Adventures (I haven't decided on a name for that one yet).
Franklin's story follows him going to visit Artie and Leech who are back with the Morlocks (because I'm anti-Krakoa and so are they cause I said so). Franklin needs to have friends again. The Future Foundation was so good for him, but now they've all gone their separate ways. But basically Franklin is just hopping around the world visiting all his friends (Leech, Power Pack, Luna etc.), adopting a stray puppy (who he names Baxter), and figuring out that he can be a hero all on his own without his family behind him and without his powers. He eventually settles in London, England and moves in with an old couple who sponsor a disaster relief center that he volunteers at in exchange for shelter/meals. (This is also close to Luna, so he likes that.)
this is tragic i have reached the limit i'll reblog it with the rest
I have just witnessed someone charcterising my blorbos in a way that I, personally, dislike and disagree with. As you can imagine, this is a most grievous insult and I am not doing well at present. Large baskets full of bread and candles and confetti will be greatly appreciated.
quick thing of luna maximoff 🌛🔮🧠🔮🌜
Reed: “Son, I’ll love you even if you aren’t a ridiculous god mode child”
Franklin: “Thanks dad but I’d prefer the power to crush all who oppose me”
Before we start… I’m going to focus mainly on Luna’s modern appearances (Son of M-current) since I haven’t read all of her comic appearances, and she was either a baby or a plot device with no personality (other than needing to be rescued) in those past comics.
A lot of this is also speculation about her character (obviously) and how I see her, so there will be a lot of unanswered questions that I pose about her.
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