Being a student while having a hyperfixation is hell, wdym I have to prep for my upcoming exam instead of making art of the characters from the silly kids show
While Ladynoir's og dynamic was okay for a formulaic show (which was what miraculous was going for originally), it definitely started to show its shortcomings in later seasons. They did try to adress it, but never really committed to it fully. Like many other ideas/plot points.
Like, S3 and S4 were supposed to say something about Chat Noir's being delegated to a sidekick and Ladybug not trusting him. But they didn't really do it well, sometimes LB just looks super bossy and CN kind of dumb and impulsive. You know when this dynamic should've changed ? The kwami swap episode. It's basically a body/role swap, which is a very popular trope in media, but they executed it so badly and no real lesson was learned. Felt like they just did it for shit and giggles without any real intention behind.
I'm not a fanfic writer, but I enjoy redesigning/rewriting some of the characters, so I'll definitely keep this in mind ! Ladynoir dynamic is different from s1 to s6 but I just feel like we didn't really get to see actually impactful moments of it changing.
Your analyses are very helpful since I don't have time to re-watch the show for the moment, it gives me a way to look back on the old eps and take away helpful info from them, but also connect current events to the later ones :)
I like that we can see as early as this that Hawkmoth has different strategies for akumatizing people. In The Bubbler, Gabe deliberately takes the opportunity to piss Nino off so he can akumatize him. In Mr. Pigeon though, he is literally just waiting around in his lair to catch a whiff of bad feeling. Someone was going to get akumatized today, where that may not have been the case in The Bubbler. I definitely think any Butterfly user who isn't rich and famously reclusive is gonna have to rely a LOT more on strategy A than strategy B (I have not seen season 6, so IDK if Lila does this or not).
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Uuuuuugggghhh, Roger, why are you always the poster child for terrible cop behavior? This is like the first episode you appear in and I already hate you for being so mean to Mr. Ramier. No, he's not supposed to feed the pigeons here, but do you have to be such a *dick* about it?
And here we see the first in a long line of Akumas who drastically switch body types for no real reason. Tell me, do we think Mr. Pigeon is jacked because it's Mr. Ramier's fantasy, or do we think it's Gabriel's fantasy? Considering the general trend in akumas. . . I'll let ya'll make of that what you will.
Remember in the Bubbler when I said that Sabrina is just as much of a willing accomplice to Chloe as Nathalie is to Gabe? Case in point here. Look how proud of herself she looks to be pulling one over on Marinette! She's genuinely enjoying being sneaky and unethical here, and she says to Chloe "We're so awesome," when she's done the deed. I think she really does enjoy the superior feeling that comes with screwing someone over like this. She likes to feel like the smartest person in the room. I also wonder if she doesn't enjoy the sneaking around and breaking the rules aspect because her dad is a cop and she feels stifled by his adherence to following the rules.
Adrien is a sneaky kitty! This is an aspect that I think is actually fairly common with him that is criminally underutilized in fanfic! He does this stealth hello literally all the time! He's good at sneaking around! Let him use that skill!
I have no valuable analysis to add, you just all need to see Adrien being an absolute *dork* and dancing to himself while he's on guard. He literally tells Ladybug "I AM acting natural!" He's such a loser, I love him so much.
Once again, we can see that LB and CN have already settled into their dynamic of "Cat brawn, bug brain," which, while functional, isn't ideal. I don't think this is something they ever conciously worked on, and I definitely don't recall it smoothing over naturally in the show, but we'll see if I'm misremembering. If not, I would love to see this come up in fanfic where they have to work at filling each other's niche to have better synergy in scenarios like this.
Okay, props to this episode, those pigeons are TERRIFYING, I would have peed my pants.
Huh, I didn't realize LB was an in-universe nickname for Ladybug with anybody, but here we see Chat using it (and being adorably charming while he does so). Gonna have to see if that's a one-off fluke or if it comes up again.
Okay, I actually love that Marinette just misses the shot because of the wind. For as competent as she is, Marinette isn't actually a trained superhero, and it shows here! She's not perfectly physically capable in every way. It also goes back to that bug-brain, cat-brawn thing I was talking about. Adrien's a trained fencer and isn't extremely clumsy in his day-to-day life, and so is more physically capable and confident than Marinette, even with the Miraculous enhancing her abilities.
I actually need Juleka's steampunk derby hat in my closet yesterday. Marinette is very talented, and her embroidery especially definitely won her the competition, but *damn* if Juleka isn't insanely talented too.
And here we reach a point of fascination to me. It did not click for me that Adrien and Chloe were supposedly childhood friends the first time I watched season one until I got to origins and it was explicitly stated. Instances like these are a big part of why! Chloe isn't treating Gabe like someone she already knows. She feels the need to formally introduce herself *and* her father in this situation, but I seem to remember her being really informal with him in later episodes. To me, this just says the retcons go back further than we thought. Even as early as this there were major inconsistencies in the writing. If someone has a Watsonian theory as to why this is though, I would love to hear it!
Also, shoutout to @linartblogs who pointed out on my LAST analysis post that the foundation for Marinette's season 6 character flaws are laid as early as The Bubbler! Even way back then, it's clear she considers all adults as inherently loving towards her children and is already lying to Adrien about his father being a good person to spare his feelings. That doesn't come out of left field AT ALL for her.
I'll talk about it again when Audrey shows up, but Marinette absolutely has a bias towards believing that parents always want the best for their kids and that they should be listened to, which comes from HER great parents being her primary frame of reference. It
if y’all see this floating around: yes, it’s from me, and yes, you can find the original post on hoyolab under the same user <3
Gabriel Agreste dares to ask the question: "what if I kill myself in front of you to forever change the trajectory of your life while simultaneously giving you so much trauma that I'll forever haunt the narrative."
I hate the guy but he is determined I'll give him that.
Feligami haters just don't get it fr man 😔
I want a Feligami episode for s6 PLEASE
fav feligami interaction?
Gosh, that’s like asking me to choose between my children! 🥺 Only I don’t have children. And if I did, I’d love them less than even the shortest Feligami scene.
These two had me at “Wanna bet?” and every interaction since has been pure bliss. The Diamonds’ Dance was insane. The fan breaking was insane. The sewer speech was insane. The heart on Kagami’s window was insane. The fact that she told Felix about Ladybug was insane. The queer-coded speech at the end of the play was insane. The sunrise kiss was insane. All of Representation, really, was insane. The crumbs we got at the end of Recreation, paralleling yet contrasting the Adrigami scene back in Lies, were insane.
But I think I have to hand it (HA!) to the very end of Pretension:
Because this is the entire essence of their relationship encapsulated in a few frames! The devotion, the rule-breaking, the unconditional trust. The willingness to do morally unsound things to protect each other. The craving for freedom, the starving for someone to touch you gently. The fact that, while Felix hasn’t been shy about grabbing Kagami’s hand before, this time he is careful to offer, not take; that Kagami’s first real choice in her entire life is to choose him. Him. The implications of gifting someone a ring. Dear Duusu.
Felix gave Kagami her soul back, so she lets him hold it.
This scene means everything to me. It simultaneously healed my inner child and raised my standards. I want what they have or nothing —
YES OMG that's what I was going for with my most recent fanart. Adrien now needs to figure himself out without anyone's lead, find his own thing. But for now, he's very lost, he's never taken any decision for himself. I'd love for him to get into some kind of art or craft
His character seems to kind of take that direction in s6 with Revelator where he clearly states he won't do anything that will bring attention to him, so I'm thinking of something that allows him to have a more of a safe space and a community + He seems to have made changes to his room as we can see in this scene, his bed changed spots I guess ? And he painted the wall behind him :
I'd like to think that Adrien's going to get into abstract art. It's totally opposed to his father's very symmetrical, cold and strict artistic direction. He'll be able to express his emotions and creativity freely
A lot of people think of baking, since it's already a running joke in the show. But it's too tied to Marinette, and I don't like that very much since I don't want him to keep being under her wing, although she will probably be the one to inspire him to experiment.
So maybe cooking instead ? It's a way for him to connect and take care of the ones he loves, and it's also an art form
I'm really trying to figure out the development of his character since I've been planning out a rewrite/redesign of his character, which hopefully I'll be able to present to you soon
So if anyone has other suggestions/opinions on the matter, I'm all ears !
Saw the interview of Thomas saying Adrien/Chat Noir is in a stage of his life where he's finding himself and he's akin to a blank piece of paper and i could feel the mental illness activate like a sleeper agent at the thought of Adrien staring at a blank canvas trying to decide what and who he's supposed to be now im going to explode
This episode has done irreparable damage to my mind
thinking about the letter again...
@little-mari-on-a-roof 's tags on this post:
#his sacrifice in front of Marinette was already so fucked up #but knowing he had a backup plan is somehow even worse #and he definitely thought Nathalie had more time left than him (at least according to Intuition) #even in his letter he doesn't admit to all the wrong he did. he only says HE sacrified everything and that he was Monarque #he never talks about the pain he inflicted upon others #so even with his last words asking Marinette to not let him know about the villain he was #he doesn't actually write off Adrien finding and following the letter
This made me want to go check out Intuition again and... all this might be a stretch, but could this be the moment he decides to write this letter? Find a solution? And then he asks Adrien and he confirms that no, he doesn't have any adults that could replace his parents (a stupid thing to ask unless of course you don't know anything about your son)
I also added that dialogue from Recreation and I'm now convinced that it's only then that he remembers about the letter. The moment when Ladybug mentions "solution" for the second time and his face changes. And all the remorse about wasting his and Nathalie's life and fear of leaving Adrien alone, that I do believe was sincere at first (but like little-mari-on-a-roof said, no regrets about the villainy) is gone from his face. Ta-da!
Here is his solution. He promised Adrien that Nathalie would help him with his new task. So he heals her instead, since Gabriel himself keeps failing anyway. Nathalie was right and his use of Miraculous is condemning them. Fine! Perhaps Adrien will do a better job!
Also, well... Intuition is an episode that revolves around the power of Second Chance. Sooo.... makes sense if he found a backup plan right there. Adrien as his second chance...
Bonus points: in Recreation he knows Adrien would have to betray none other than Marinette to do that. Couldn't get rid of adrinette yourself? Lol just convince her to lie to him and him to betray her and let them do the rest! Another problem solved?
I did 1 and a half assignments.
dude if they give felix a British accent in the french dub like they did with the grandparents, I won't be able to take him seriously
lil light practice with my Marinette redesign :)
A lot of people nerf Marinette's freaky blue eyes in their redesigns so I decided I'll be doing the opposite. She's gonna look terrifying and I stand by it