(Telemachus Crashing Out In Book 2 Of The Odyssey)

Abandoned factory

life in death or something like that

hi hello i’ve seen far too many people find out about the telegony and be devastated that the odyssey’s happy ending does not remain happy for long.

so.

the telegony is not canon. it was not written by homer. some wannabe called eugammon of cyrene wrote it. telegonus was a character from one of hesiod’s works (not homer’s) and he’s never mentioned in the odyssey. eugammon just decided to make him odysseus’s son with circe because why not.

the telegony directly contradicts the ending of the odyssey in which odysseus and penelope grow old and die together. ALSO. odysseus’s bloodline cannot have more than one than one male heir per generation. some ancestor of his was cursed by a god. so that makes telegonus’s existence impossible. if odysseus ever had a kid with circe (which he didn’t in canon) it would have had to be a girl.

homer was long dead when eugammon was like. telegonus is gonna kill his dad and bring his step family to his mom’s island, marry his stepmother while is half-brother marries his mother. never happened. this is ancient fanfiction.

TL;DR : feel free to entirely ignore the existence of the telegony; it’s what i’ve always done anyway.

Odysseus cried all day, everyday for SEVEN YEARS on calypsos island and people still have the AUDACITY to claim what calypso did wasn’t rape.

And don’t give me any bullshit about gender roles in Ancient Greece, I LITERALLY STUDIED WOMENS GENDER ROLES IN ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME IN UNIVERSITY!! Guess what? ITS STILL CONSIDERED RAPE!

At this point in the discussion, if you’re still defending calypsos actions, you simply do not care about victims of SA when it’s a man.

“He had no choice. He spent his nights with her

inside her hollow cave, not wanting her though

she still wanted him. By day he sat out on the

rocky beach, in

tears and grief, staring in heartbreak at the

fruitless sea”

^ how much clearer can Homer get?? Gtfo

LMAO ‘Don’t tell my mommy, but I’m running away guys >:3’ scene from Telemachus in Book 2

“… My friends! Come on, let us go fetch the rations;

they are ready in the hall.

But quietly— my mother does not know…”

Oh Telemachus you teenaged (early 20s) rebel

For those of you saddened by the not yet reconciled relationship between Odysseus and Athena in Epic the Musical’s timeline, I’d like to give you some information that could help your heart.

In the Odyssey, Athena holds back the dawn until Odysseus and Penelope are fully satiated with their reunion— since this happens after the timeline of Epic, I personally head cannon her doing this for Odysseus and him afterwards immediately being like ‘yk nvm ur so right Athena this life IS amazing when you greet it with open arms’

And then ghost polities sneezes in the underworld, and he knows all is ok

RIP Telemachus you would’ve loved Taylor Swift’s Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me

Fairies when they say they know a place:

Odysseus was the original short king