Oh my god this is the most adorable thing I’ve ever seen.
Didn’t expect that.
Beauty and the Beast features my favorite love story and my favorite Disney Princess, so it holds a very special spot in my heart. So, it’s worth looking into the film to decide when the Movie is supposed to be set.
During the opening musical number “Belle”, Belle is telling the Baker about the book she’s been reading. She’s clearly describing Jack and the Beanstalk, the earliest version being the tale of “Jack Spriggins and the Enchanted Bean” in 1734. But she also deliberately mentions an ogre, not a giant. Near as I could find, the only version with an ogre was written by Joseph Jacobs in 1890, making Belle nearly contemporary to modernity. Belle’s excitement over the book is likely a sign that this is a new story.
During the same musical number, we see a sign depicting a tobacco pipe, but unlike with the Calabash pipe from the Little Mermaid movie. I could place it to possibly be a Billiard type, but the exact era of creation escapes me. However, tobacco pipes have been around as long as Tobacco has been introduced to European trade, starting in the 16th century.
The history of colored printing goes as far back as the 16th century, and there are illustrations from the early 1700s with an impressive variety of color that help establish a stronger time period. The book also shows the words Le Prince Charmant or Prince Charming. Prince Charming started being used in 1697 in Charles Perrault’s version of Sleeping Beauty, although there, Prince Charming was not a name. Rather, Perrault stated that the Prince was charmed by her words. The first story to use Prince Charming as a name is the Tale of Pretty Goldilocks. It was written at some point in the 17th Century by Madame d’Aulnoy, but in her version the hero was named Avenant. It wasn’t until 1889 when Andrew Lang retold the story that Avenant was dubbed as Charming. One year later in 1890, Oscar Wilde used the term “Prince Charming” sarcastically in his novel “The Picture of Dorian Gray”, meaning that the term had gotten its more modern meaning by this point in time.
Gaston’s musket is a Blunderbuss, which was invented in the early 1600′s and remained popular through the 18th century before falling out of fashion in the middle of the 19th century. However, considering Belle states that this is a backwards town and Gaston is an old-fashioned, Primeval man, it’s possible he’s using a largely outdated weapon.
While there are no street lamps in the city, we can see in the background lanterns on the sides of buildings, which might allude to the movie taking place before the invention of gas lamps. However, gas lamps were invented in 1809, and if the version of Jack and the Beanstalk is from 1890, then by all accounts the town should have gas lamps. What this amounting evidence is leading me to believe is that the film is directly following the plot of the original fairy tale.
In the story, Beauty’s father is a merchant who loses his fortune due to a storm destroying his cargo. They’re forced to live on a farm until the merchant stumbles upon the Beast’s castle and kick starts the plot. In the opening song, Belle says “every morning’s just the same, since the morning that we came, to this poor, provincial town.” This could mean that she grew up in a much more modern, urban, and progressive town. Possibly even Paris. But that after Maurice suffered severe financial trouble, he was forced to move them to the small, backwards town that was practically living an entire century behind the rest of France, which is why she’s so bored and unimpressed by the little town. It helps explain why she’s so eager to want to get out of this town and see the world. She wants to be part of the modern world again.
Interestingly, I can support this theory with background information. According to some of my research, Belle’s village was based on the little town of Riquewihr, France, which still looks like it did in the 16th century to this day. So the idea that Belle’s little village lacks so many modern elements could be a nod to the architecture of this sleepy French village that has remained largely untouched by the march of time. Hence why it looks more like something out of the 1700s despite the many elements from the 1800s being present.
During the song “Be Our Guest”, Lumiere dances with a match stick. Match sticks were invented in 1805. Assuming the film still takes place in the 1890s, this would be concurrent with the other evidence we’ve seen thus far. Later in the same song, the silverware makes an Eiffel tower, which was constructed in 1889. Since Jack and the Beanstalk was written after that, it still fits within the suspected time frame.
During the climax of the battle, Cogsworth is wearing military garments reflective of Napoleonic styles. Napoleon was coronated in 1804 until 1814, had a brief return to power in 1815, and eventually died in 1821. So this is also congruent to the established time period.
In the Youtube Video “Fashion Expert Fact Checks Belle from Beauty and the Beast’s Costumes” by Glamour, April Calahan, a Fashion Historian from the Fashion Institute of Technology directly noted that Belle’s yellow gown lacks the shape of a proper 18th century dress, and more closely resembles the shape of 19th century dresses, fitting into the evidence that’s been mounting in support of a late 19th century setting.
As a part of his primary costume, Lefou wears a waistcoat and tailcoats, which came into vogue in the 1800s, namely from the 1840s through the 1850s.
But if the film is set in the 1800s, how can the Beast still be a prince after the French Revolution? Well something worth noting is that when he finds out that Belle isn’t coming to dinner, the Beast storms through the halls to her room as Cogsworth calls after him as “Your Eminence” and “Your Grace”. The address of “Your Eminence” is reserved for Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church, and is an ecclesiastical style of address. “Your Grace” is noticeably an English style of address, but it’s being used by Cogsworth who is British, so I can chalk that up to just part of his culture. Although it was used for British monarchs, it fell out of use during the reign of King Henry VIII (1509-1547) and after that, the use of “Your Grace” became used to address archbishops and non-royal Dukes and Duchesses. Now clearly the Beast is not a cardinal or a bishop, especially if he is looking for the love of a woman to make him human, since it’s forbidden for Catholic priests to marry. So clearly that is not what is meant here. But the other answer actually does hold a bit of weight. Beast’s father was in fact, a Duke. So how is the Beast a prince? He’s not. Not entirely. See, there’s more than one kind of Prince in French nobility. There’s a Prince du Sang, or a Prince by Blood. Effectively, the Crown Prince, the sons of ruling monarchs. But the title is also given to lords in charge of a Principality, one of the smallest territorial sizes. The Beast’s principality probably only extends to having power over the little unnamed village. And with it being after the revolution, Beast might not even have the proper use of his title anymore. He’s effectively a rich kid in a fancy house with no real authority or power. He’s just old money from a by-gone era of human history. But if Beast’s address of “Your Grace” is accurate, that would mean that he’s a non-royal Duke, meaning he would not likely have been executed during the Revolution, as his family would have essentially been governors or senators than actual monarchs. They just had jurisdiction over a small piece of the Kingdom of France and reported back to and obeyed the orders of their King. Thus, he would not have been important enough to be killed or chased out of power by the townsfolk.
The movie is set between the late autumn and early-to-mid winter of 1890. Although the snow is gone when Belle returns to the village, the trees are still bare, signaling that it may just be unseasonably warm, though it could be the very early spring of 1891 between the receding of the snow and the blossoming of new spring foliage. Between the books, clothing, and references made, my conclusion is that Belle is a very modern girl living in a backwards little town stuck in the past, thus why a village in 1890 looks so completely lacking in modern technology despite the era. The Prince is nothing more than a fancy title as the son of a Duke, and he likely has very little if any actual government authority. Essentially, Belle married into wealth, not power, and will never be a proper queen, and I’m not sure if the wife of a lord ruling a principality is a princess or not, but I suspect the answer is no. Making Belle, like Mulan, a Disney Princess who did not marry royalty, was not born royalty, and thus, cannot be called a Disney Princess. She’s definitely a noblewoman, but she’s not royal by any means.
Binged atla and now I’m in love with these two and can’t stop,,, thinking about them 🥺
Top 10 favorite Zukka fics?
alright i am still fairly new to zukka fanfiction and i have so much to read but out of the ones i have read so far here are my favorites in no particular order:
everything in the best laid intentions series (but especially the third part for disaster bi sokka my son)
Centers around members of the Gaang coming out to their well meaning but woefully unprepared friends. Part one is centered around Zuko coming out as gay, the second one is centered around Toph coming out as a lesbian and the third one is centered around Sokka coming to terms with his bisexuality.
the consequences of knowing because i love some good angst and this changed me as a person
Sokka's in love with Zuko. Zuko knows this. Zuko's in love with Sokka. Sokka knows this.
They're not meant to be in love. Everyone knows this.
Five Times Zuko Wanted to Die (and One Time He Didn’t) for excellent flirty modern au
“Sorry about that,” the voice says, and suddenly the curtain has been pushed aside, and Zuko is speechless. “What can I help you with?” He stares. “Um— ” The boy has to be around his age, he’s sure of it. He’s got the most perfect tan face Zuko has ever seen, with blue eyes so brilliant it’s hard to form words. The college-age AU in which Sokka fixes watches, Zuko struggles through engineering, and everyone's nervous about the cute boy from the jewelry shop.
The Fate of Nations in Our Hands is a super good post war fic. who isn’t a slut for ambassador sokka and fire lord zuko??
Sokka and Zuko's journey with touch over the course of Sokka's first year as the Ambassador.
A Problematic Peace series for some more A+ post war content and pining dorks
(Part one summary) It’s a little bit hard to sleep alone in an empty palace when you’ve just gotten used to having friends, a little bit hard to lead a nation when your family’s gruesome legacy still colors everything you do, and a little bit hard to hold onto your last vestiges of heterosexuality when you’re starting to realize that you never had them in the first place.
Quit your life and come train Pokemon is my favorite modern au and the first kiss scene is the best thing i have ever read
Step one: Don't fall in love with Aang's ridiculously hot, talented, jerk-ish roommate who sings Fall Out Boy in the shower and is secretly a huge dork.
Failed step one.
The Good Vanilla is so adorable it made me cry
Sokka’s beautiful friendship with Zuko doesn’t start with breaking Dad out of jail. That’s just what he tells people.
Sokka’s beautiful friendship with Zuko started the day he realizes that he knows how to cook.
Feat. breakup cake, an attempted assassination, and eating out of the pan like dirty heathens.
Spirits Help Us, There’s Two of Them because they are perfect for each other and this fic proves it and the last scene changed my life
Sokka and Zuko are both weird guys. Fortunately, they're the same kind of weird as each other.
Friendship Bracelets more modern au cuteness but this time they are roommates and everything about it is so pure
Sokka was laughing, all stupid and nice with his head thrown back, and Zuko realized that he quite liked Sokka’s laugh. He liked it a lot.
And the sun was coming in through the windows in such a way that it was illuminating Sokka’s tanned skin, the blue of his eyes, the light of his smile. And Zuko thought fuck.
Fuck fuck fuck.
or
and they were roommates (oh my god they were roommates) ft. the inherent homoeroticism of friendship bracelets
(do you take this jerk to be) your one and only i told myself i would only do complete fics on this list but screw that this fic is the exception because it is so essential to zukka nation
Under the leadership of Fire Lord Iroh, the Fire Nation has made every attempt to restore peace and make amends for the harm they inflicted during the Seventy-Year War. Their newest proposal is a literal proposal: a marriage to unite the Fire Nation and the Water Tribes.
The Fire Nation offers Prince Zuko’s hand.
The Water Tribes offer Princess Yue’s.
Sokka is apparently the only person in the world who has a problem with any of this.
Don’t Stop Believing
Bohemian Rhapsody
Living On A Prayer
Come On Eileen
Sweet Caroline
Shot Through the Heart
Pour Some Sugar on Me
Sweet Home Alabama
Under Pressure
Shook Me All Night Long
Ice Ice Baby
Cotton Eyed Joe
500 Miles
Wonderwall
Buddy Holly
A Thousand Miles
Teenage Dirtbag
Red Solo Cup
Mr Brightside
Never Gonna Give You Up
Eye of the Tiger
Chicken Fried
American Pie
I Love Rock and Roll
Dancing Queen
Don’t You Want Me
We Will Rock You
The Time Warp
Hey Jude
Piano Man
This Is How We Do It
Drops of Jupiter
Hey Soul Sister
In The End
All The Small Things
Stacy’s Mom
Kryptonite
All Star
You Found Me
Bad Day
Bring Me To Life
Dance, Dance
Sugar We’re Going Down
I Write Sins Not Tragedies
All The Small Things
Ocean Avenue
Dirty Little Secret
Margaritaville
Sk8er Boi
Brown Eyed Girl
Life Is A Highway
Some Nights
Little Lion Man
Breakeven
Hey There Delilah
Viva La Vida
Use Somebody
Carry On My Wayward Son
Take On Me
1985
Iris
I’m Awesome
Seven Nation Army
September
Since U Been Gone
Skinny Love
Everybody (Backstreet’s Back)
Bye Bye Bye
Say It Ain’t So
Somewhere Only We Know
I’m Yours
Last Resort
My Girl
Tiny Dancer
Roxanne
Shout
I’m a Believer
Soul Man
Feel Good Inc
Check Yes Juliet
Walking On Sunshine
MMM Bop
Pumped up Kicks
Hooked On A Feeling
It’s A Beautiful Day
Summer Girls
Before He Cheats
Happy Together
You Make My Dreams Come True
Build Me Up Buttercup
Escape (The Pina Colada Song)
DONTTRUSTME
Shake It (Metro Station)
Juke Box Hero
Girls Just Want To Have Fun
Killer Queen - Queen (Isolated Vocals)
fuck. fuck.
Brie Larson by Camilla Akrans for Porter Magazine
Star Wars Prequels | by Ryan Valle
how I envisioned this scene in the latest episode